Eddie Daacke Outlaw Guns

It is not the guns that kill the people, just like a car on its own cannot kill someone. Educate the people with realistic gun control and education (you need a license to drive), but it wont help to ban guns. Crazy people with illegal intent will always have access to guns. Drugs are not legal and yet its almost freely available if you want it. Read this :

General Cosgrove was interviewed on the radio the other day and
you'll love his reply to the lady who interviewed him concerning guns and children.

It is a portion of ABC interview between a female broadcaster and General Cosgrove who was about to sponsor a Boy Scout Troop visiting his military headquarters.

FEMALE INTERVIEWER: So, General Cosgrove, what things are you
going to teach these young boys when they visit your base?

GENERAL COSGROVE: We're going to teach them climbing, canoeing,
archery, and shooting.

FEMALE INTERVIEWER: Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible, isn't it?

GENERAL COSGROVE: I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on
the rifle range.

FEMALE INTERVIEWER: Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous
Activity to be teaching children?

GENERAL COSGROVE: I don't see how. We will be teaching them proper
rifle discipline before they even touch a firearm.

FEMALE INTERVIEWER: But you're equipping them to become violent

GENERAL COSGROVE: Well, Ma'am, you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're not one, are you?
Posted: 26 April 2007 at 08:01

Wolfgang Grulke RE: Outlaw Guns

I have this naive belief that if we get rid of 99% of guns from society that we might be able to avoid even a few shootings. Any life saved is worth it. According to the current US figures we might be able to save (say) half the 30 000 lives that are lost in gun crime each year - worth it? And then we'll certainly be able to identify the criminals - they're the ones carrying the guns. I know that a gun-free peaceful world is a naive dream - more's the pity - it's the kind of world that we should like to leave for our children.
Posted: 26 April 2007 at 10:27

Doug Vining RE: Outlaw Guns

Eddie, I am inclined to agree with you. Tens of thousands of people get killed by by cars each year (17,000 in South Africa alone) so let's outlaw cars - think of all the lives we would save. The average train accident in India takes 1000 lives in one fell swoop. Should we outlaw trains?
I'm not in favor of unrestricted gun ownership, but criminals, suicide bombers and others who wish to harm their fellow man will find the means anyway. I get suspicious of governments who want to restrict weapons to themselves.
The only gun-free society is one that is also crime-free, conflict-free, and government-free. Utopia perhaps?
Posted: 26 April 2007 at 11:32

John Menasce Outlawing guns

Two issues
1.0 The legislation is too lax on people obtaining mega-lethal [semiautomatic] weapons. The undesirables slip through the checking systems anyway. Banning won't solve the problem but merely drive it underground.
2.0 In South Africa it's alleged that you can rent an AK47 for a USD100 a night and bullets cost about USD20 each from various criminal elements. Where did these weapons come from --leftovers from the Mocambique and Zimbabwe "armed struggle" amongst other sources so banning domestic [vs military] weapons isn't the answer until these sources can be closed off.
Posted: 26 April 2007 at 16:34

Rudiger Holzapfel RE: Outlaw Guns

I think the example of cars and trains are just too lopsided. People don't use cars and trains to DELIBERATELY kill others, these are accidents, tragic as they might be.

Maybe outlawing guns is a radical first step to get some sort of handle on the situation? Granted, there will be guns undergroud and people who are serious about using them will get them. But it seems the ease of aquisition and the everyday presence make them so acceptable and present in these peoples' minds that they are considered viable solutions to either solving a problem or "paying tribute." Couldn't that change with less presence or even a less favourable view of guns altogether?

I do wonder though if even a thousand innocents killed in one day would alter the attitude.*) It would be maybe 50000 immediately affected people ... that doesn't seem enough, unless someone very much in the public eye is first-hand affected by this sort of tragedy and starts carrying the flag! But even then, it would take some time and persuasion.

*) Did hurricane Katrina really change things, or was it that the victims were too disenfranchised to have a strong lobby?
Posted: 26 June 2007 at 17:31

Wolfgang Grulke What will it take for the US to repeal its gun laws?

Sandy Hook writes a compelling article in The Economist this week and makes the statement "If even the slaughter of 20 small children cannot end America’s infatuation with guns, nothing will."
Surely that can't be true!? What do you think it will take for the US to repeal its gun laws? The killing of 100 children? 1000? More?
At what point will this country come to its senses? Will we look back at 2012 from our vantage point in (say) 2050 and consider 'the right to bear arms' in the same light as slavery?
Our MindBullet published five years ago in 2007 asked similar questions. Still we have no answers.
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Posted: 2 January 2013 at 13:19

Wolfgang Grulke Yoko Ono: "One million people killed by guns in the US since John died!"

This latest news shows that the political dance continues - one step forwards, two steps back. What more will it take?
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Posted: 18 April 2013 at 10:57

Wolfgang Grulke Yoko Ono: "One million people killed by guns in the US since John died!"

Headline in today's Sunday Times: "Two small bombs and a nation is in trauma, yet 85 die by bullet every day". Say no more.
Posted: 21 April 2013 at 09:59
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